Trothmoot FAQ

• 1.0 Who Comes to Trothmoot?
  • 1.1 Do I Have to Be a Troth Member/Heathen/Human?
  • 1.2 Are Children Welcome? How About Pets?
  • 1.3 How Are the Handicapped Facilities?
• 2.0 What Is Trothmoot?
  • 2.1 I Hate Meetings! (So Do We!)
• 3.0 When Is Trothmoot?
  • 3.1 What's on the Program Already?
    • 3.1.1 Land-Taking
    • 3.1.2 Oracular Seidh
    • 3.1.3 Grand Sumbel
    • 3.1.4 Meetings:
      • 3.1.4.1 Clergy
      • 3.1.4.2 Stewards
      • 3.1.4.3 High Rede
      • 3.1.4.4 General Membership
      • 3.1.4.5 Chief Information Officer
  • 3.1.5 Idunna Blot
  • 3.1.6 Viking Games
  • 3.1.7 Brewing Competition
  • 3.1.8 Closing Ritual
  • 3.2 What Else Is Likely to Be on the Program?
  • 3.3 What If I Want to Be a Presenter?
• 4.0 Where Is Trothmoot?
  • 4.1 How Do I Get There?
    • 4.1.1 By Car
    • 4.1.2 By Plane
    • 4.1.3 By Train or Bus
  • 4.2 What Facilities Are at the Campsite?
    • 4.2.1 Cabins
    • 4.2.2 Food Plan
    • 4.2.3 RV Camping
    • 4.2.4 Tent Camping
    • 4.2.5 Handicapped Access to Facilities
  • 4.3 What Amenities Are Nearby?
  • 4.4 What's the Weather Like?
  • 4.5 Relations with Our (Corporeal) Neighbors: The Locals
• 5.0 How Much Does It Cost?
  • 5.1 Can I Register Online?
  • 5.2 Where's the Registration Form?
• 6.0 What About Dealers?
• 7.0 What Should I Pack?
• 8.0 What Have People Said about Past Trothmoots?
• 9.0 Whom Should I Contact for More Information?

1.0 Who Comes to Trothmoot?

Everyone who can keep the frith is welcome to come to Trothmoot. Troth affiliation is not required. It is a Heathen festival, however, so keep in mind the only activities scheduled will be Heathen ones!

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1.1 Do I Have to Be a Troth Member/Heathen/Human?

More seriously: no, one does not have to be a Troth member, or even primarily self-identify as Heathen, Germanic pagan, Asatruar, or similar, to attend Trothmoot. It is expected, however, that attendees will understand that this is a Heathen gathering and public events will be conducted within that frame of reference. Everyone who can keep the frith is welcome. By "Keep the Frith" we mean everyone who can conduct themselves in a civil manner, tolerant of the differences and variety that make the Troth the wonderful organization that it is. You need to obey both the laws of the land and the customs of the heathen community, and act with good guest manners. If you can do that, you are warmly invited to attend.

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1.2 Are Children Welcome? How About Pets?

Our children are our future and are definitely welcome and encouraged to attend. We are working to make TM more child-friendly every year, and have earmarked a couple of the cabins as Family Space, specifically set aside for people with kids. The more kids come to TM, the more fun it will be for the other kids there, so let us know if there is anything else we can do to accommodate your family's comfort.

There will be activities planned that will run concurrently with other meetings and events that parents might attend. Please remember, though, that this is not a babysitting service.

Concerning pets: Due to the regulations of the park, we ask that you please do not bring pets.

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1.3 How Are the Handicapped Facilities?

The campsite itself is rather level, with at most one or two stairs required to gain entrance to some of the cabins and central bathhouse. The only real obstacle on the site is the central dining hall, which has six steps to it from the ground floor, but also has a wheelchair ramp. People attending Trothmoot who have special needs should make those needs known on the registration form. The committee will do all they can to accommodate.

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2.0 What is Trothmoot?

Trothmoot is the annual official gathering, festival, and meeting of the Troth, an international organization of heathens.

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2.1 I Hate Meetings! (So Do We!)

Well, then, don't go to any. All Troth members are strongly encouraged to attend the General Members' Meeting, which will be held some time Saturday afternoon, and if you're in a one of the various special interest groups (Clergy Program, High Rede, etc) you will be expected to attend the meeting for that group. Otherwise, there's usually something scheduled opposite the meeting for those of you who aren't in that group. The exception, however, is the General Members' meeting, because all Troth members really are expected to attend.

Other than meeting though, Trothmoot offers all the fun of camping, in a Heathen atmosphere. Ther are plenty of games, workshops, blots, sumbel, seidhr, competitions, song and laughter, and folks to argue finer point of lore with. You can cook out in the firepits or on your grill, sunbathe, hike, explore the countryside by car, go antiquing, or search for the ultimate schnitzel or brat. Trothmoot is our gathering, but it is much more than just meetings! It's a great place to meet heathens, and have a fun vacation.

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3.0 When Is Trothmoot?

Trothmoot is usually held on the first full weekend of June, going from Thursday through Sunday of that weekend. In 2006, this means that Trothmoot will be held May 31 - June 3. Arrival time on Thursday is 4:00 PM, and we must leave the facility by 12:00 Noon on Sunday. Festivities and workshops will be scheduled throughout each day and into the evening. The program does allow a reasonable amount of time between workshops and meetings, and a generous amount of time for meal breaks.

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3.1 What's on the Program Already?

Currently, we are accepting submissions from interested parties to run workshops/lectures/etc. However, certain events are "traditions" for Trothmoot. The meetings already mentioned above will be on the schedule, as will opening and closing rituals. The Troth remembers its patron, Idunna, annually with a blot to that goddess. We host a feast on Saturday night for all attendees (regardless of food plan participation!) and will also hold a sumbel after the feast. There will be a host of other activities, including a skaldic competition, a lore test, an oracular seidh ritual, and more! A full roster of events will be available upon check-in.

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3.1.1 Land-Taking

The Land-Taking is a vigorous hike around the festival area to claim and hallow the space for Trothmoot. Also, the Glove of Tyr will be erected, marking our campsite as a place where the Law of the Thing will be kept. This will be done first thing Thursday afternoon, as soon as one of our representatives is onsite. Please do not arrive at the site too early -- there always seems to be a group of people waiting to check in on Thursday around breakfast time. Don’t do that. Have a leisurely breakfast at a local restaurant, and arrive at the site with beverages, and patience as we get things up and running and get you checked in. There are no prizes for being first, and cabins are assigned based on grouping folks with appropriate companions. It's not "first come first pick of the cabins" or anything, so take it easy.

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3.1.2 Oracular Seidh

This inventive re-creation of the oracular practice of our heathen ancestors has been a Trothmoot favorite for years. Questions can be asked on any topic (including gods, the future, and the beloved dead) to received answers from trained seers and seeresses. This ritual is usually scheduled for Friday night, around nine PM.

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3.1.3 Grand Sumbel

On the last night of Trothmoot, and almost directly after the Feast, the horn will be passed around so that oaths, boasts, and toasts may be shared among your fellows and the gods. After the traditional three rounds, things get a bit less formal, although participants are encouraged to keep the frith. While this is also affectionately known as "Grand Stumble," a non-alcoholic horn will be provided. This always happens Saturday night, starting after feast cleanup has been completed.

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3.1.4 Meetings

Despite all the workshops and rituals, this is unfortunately still a meeting, and so the various subgroups in the Troth have to have meetings of their own. Most meetings will happen on sometime Saturday or Sunday morning so the maximum number of people will attend. We work hard, we play hard. Check the schedule, show up on time, and we’ll get the business of work over quickly so we can have time for fun.

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3.1.4.1 Clergy Program

All Elders, Godmen, and Trainees are expected to attend the Clergy Program Meeting. Rod Landreth, as Dean of the Clergy Program, will preside.

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3.1.4.2 Stewards

All Regional Stewards, whether proposed or confirmed, are expected to attend. Persons in regions without stewards who are interested in becoming stewards are strongly encouraged to come and find out what it's all about! Patricia Lafayllve, as High Steward, will preside.

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3.1.4.3 High Rede

The High Rede will lock themselves in a small cabin and have their annual face-to-face meeting, taking proposals from the members and their fellow Redesmen. Demarus, as Steersman, will preside.

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3.1.4.4 General Membership

All Troth members attending Trothmoot are expected to attend the General Members' Meeting, where the officers will directly present their annual reports. Proposals to be considered by the Rede will also be taken from the floor. Demarus, as Steersman, will preside.

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3.1.4.5 Chief Information Officer

This informal meeting will take place during lunch between the CIO, his staff, and any Trothmoot attendee who would like to learn more or help out with the Troth's computer operations and Internet presence. Arthur Reyes, as CIO, will preside. Punch and pie.

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3.1.5 Idunna Blot

Join us in celebrating Idunna (patron goddess of the Troth) and the other gods and goddesses in this, the central ritual of Trothmoot. This will happen some time Saturday afternoon.

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3.1.6 Viking Games

Trothmoot 2006 will not have martial Viking games, since no weapons are allowed on Indiana State Park property. There will, however, be competitions that don't involve actual combat. . . notably the infamous Lore Test. There will also be physical games of skill that do not involve combat, such as kubb, hammer toss, etc. More information will be made available about this onsite.

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3.1.7 Brewing Competition

The annual Mead Competition has been expanded this year with the addition of a separate contest for home-brewed ale. A panel of Redesfolk will judge the mead, and a panel of Troth Stewards will judge the ale. Prizes will be awarded. Interested brewers should check out the official rules of the competition.

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3.1.8 Closing Ritual

Say farewell to everything we said hello to, take down the glove, and go home. This will happen Sunday morning, giving people a chance to attend while allowing plenty of time for site clean up.

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3.1.9 Auction

In the past we have held a raffle to raise funds for next year's events. This year we are planning to have an auction. If you have an item that you would like to enter please contact the Trothmoot committee, we look forward to a great competition!

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3.2 What Else Is Likely to Be on the Program?

Workshops, more rituals, craft demonstrations, and more! There will also be plenty of time for random socializing -- that extremely important community building experience.

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3.3 What if I Want to Be a Presenter?

If you would like to contribute to the program, we're interested in talking to you! Here are some details to keep in mind:

• All classes, lectures, rituals, etc. should, of course, be related to Heathenry.
• Classes, lectures, etc. should be kept to one hour in length. If you have something that will go over one hour, please notify the Program Coordinator, Sifsson, so that he can book you a doubled space on the program. He will also need to know of any special needs you have (i.e. a slideshow needs a screen or blank wall, and should be conducted indoors) at the time you send in your application.
• You will be expected to arrive on time to host your event. If circumstances are such that you cannot make it, we will do what we can to accommodate the change. However, please be aware that we might have to cancel your workshop altogether, depending upon the needs of the program itself.

If you are interested in giving a presentation, write to:

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3.4 Where Is Trothmoot?

Even if you're not part of a sub-group with a meeting to attend, we are a volunteer organization, and we run on volunteer effort. We need all attendees to volunteer to help out. If you get the meal plan, you need to contribute a shift in the kitchen. Everyone can chip in and do a shift of clean-up, or other on-site work. We need people to volunteer to work in registration and clean-up crews. If you want to get even more out of your Trothmoot experience, volunteer! You will meet fellow volunteer folks, and earn the respect and appreciation of others attending Moot. If you are interested in volunteering for something specific, please email the Trothmoot planning committee at Trothmoot2007@yahoo.com. Trothmoot is not a for-profit event and we strive to keep prices as low as possible. In order to continue doing this, we need a hand from everyone attending.

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4.0 Where Is Trothmoot?

Trothmoot 2005 will be located at Lincoln State Park, Lincoln City, Indiana. The park is located approximately 40 miles east of Evansville, Indiana and 70 miles west of Louisville, Kentucky. It's just off of I-64.

It's a great facility, with many dormitory-style cabins, capable of holding over a hundred fifty people. Each group of cabins has a latrine and long sink, and in the middle of it all is an immense dining hall and central bathhouse. The cabins all have sturdy wooden beds with included mattresses, usually stacked as bunk beds. Each bedroom also has a bit of closet space, so bring coat hangers if you need them.

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4.1 How Do I Get There?

Lincoln State Park is located approximately 40 miles east of Evansville, Indiana and 70 miles west of Louisville, Kentucky. It is also 185 miles south of Indianapolis, Indiana and 195 miles east of St. Louis, Missouri.

4.1.1 By Car

Note: On-site parking is limited, although there's also an off-site overflow lot. People who are interested in working out carpooling details should please note this information on your registration form. Troth members may email the troth-members list for finding others in your area who are going. Sharing road trips can be quite fun! If you are making a long trip, consider picking someone up along the way to help defray the cost of gas, and allay the boredom of a long drive. Trothmoot is all about building and strengthening our heathen community -- so share the journey, share the ride!

From the Louisville Airport:

Take I-264 (the Watterson Expressway) west ten and three-quarter miles around the city to Exit 0B, where I-264 ends at I-64. I-264 is the highway right next to the Louisville Airport and is reasonably well-signed. This interchange isn't necessarily as well signed, so be watchful for a left exit.

Once on I-64 West (signed for New Albany and St Louis), follow the directions for "From the East," below.

From the East:

Once I-64 West makes its junction with I-264 and crosses the Ohio River from Louisville, Kentucky into Indiana, you will be sixty-seven and a half miles from the exit for the park. You will also want to set your watches back an hour as you cross the river. Take I-64 West (St Louis) to exit 57, US Route 231 for Dale, Huntingburg, and Jasper. There will be a truck stop to your right as you ascend the ramp.

Turn LEFT at the top of the ramp to go SOUTH on US 231. You will pass back over the freeway. Now read the "from the Freeway to the Park" directions below.

From Evansville and the West:

Take I-64 to US 231 for Dale, Huntingburg, and Jasper. Turn RIGHT at the top of the ramp, and read the "From the Freeway to the Park" directions below.

From the Freeway to the Park:

Soon after you are away from the freeway, you will pass a motel and a Denny's on your left. Very shortly after that, you will make your way into the town of Dale. US 231 will, as you progress, also merge with Indiana State Routes 45 and 62. You will be on US 231 for six and a half miles from I-64 to Indiana State Route 162, and once you're out of Dale it's all farms and cornfields.

Turn left on SR 162. You will be on this road for about two miles through thick woods, and then you will see the sign for Lincoln State Park.

Turn right into the park. Stop at the ranger cabin, tell them you're with Trothmoot at the group camp area, and they will direct you further (you may have to pay a nominal per-vehicle parking fee).

Once you come around the dam and see the dining hall, the first cabin on the left will be Registration. Check in with them for further instructions, cabin assignments, etc.

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4.1.2 By Plane

Lincoln is close to two commercial airports: Evansville Regional Airport at Evansville, Indiana (EVV); and Louisville International Airport, at Louisville, Kentucky (airport code SRD). American, Delta, and Northwest currently operate commuter flights to and from Evanston. Louisville is served by all major domestic airlines.

Unfortunately, there is no regularly scheduled ground transportation from these airports to Lincoln State Park. Those flying in will have to either rent a car or coordinate travel arrangements with someone who has one. Anyone who does plan on arriving by plane needs to contact the Trothmoot committee; we'll do what we can to put people in touch who are arriving at similar times, so that ride shares and so forth can occur.

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4.1.3 By Train or Bus

The closest train station is in Louisville, Kentucky. Evansville and Louisville seem to be the nearest Greyhound bus stations.

4.2 What Facilities Are at the Campsite?

Facilities include shared cabins. Showers are separated by gender, but are otherwise typical camp showers.

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4.2.1 Cabins

There are a total of fifteen cabins. There are two single cabins (already spoken for, sorry). Cabins contain typical bunk bed set ups. Mattresses are provided, but bedding is not, so add blankets, sleeping bags, and pillows to your packing list! Also include anything you think is relevant about your habits and preferences so that we can get you into the best cabin for your situation.

4.2.2 Food Plan

This is an entirely optional package, meaning you can choose to participate or not. Those who do participate in the food plan will be provided with dinner Thursday, breakfast, lunch, and dinner Friday and Saturday, and brunch on Sunday. The Saturday night Feast is, as already mentioned, free to all attendees, regardless of particpation in the food plan.

All participants of the food plan are expected to volunteer for one shift, prep or cleanup, for one meal during Trothmoot. You will be asked to sign up for your shift during on site registration. It is very important that you show up for your assigned shift -- we count on one another to get this done right! Additionally, the expectation is that everyone able to will help during cleanup after the feast on Saturday night -- this is so that we can move on to the important things -- Grand Sumble and the Awards! Early registration is your best bet for getting the kitchen shift you'd prefer, but please understand that we all must work to make this event happen. The organizers and volunteers want to take time to enjoy events and socializing too, so please, chip in, be on time, work your shift.

If you choose not to participate in the food plan, that is entirely your choice. However, please keep in mind that non-participants will not have access to the kitchen. This means you must bring your own supplies, coolers, camp stoves, grills, dishes, etc.

The cost for the food plan is $45.00. Individual meals can be purchased on site (for day rate attendees, as an example) at the cost of $6.00 per meal, or $10.00 for two meals. Again, this is entirely optional! However, it's less work for you!

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4.2.3. RV Camping

RV's are allowed on the Lincoln State Park site. However, the RV spaces are not located near our gathering site.

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4.2.4. Tent Camping

Tent camping is available! It is at the primitive camping site inside the park. However, again, it is not located near our gathering site. Also, we will not have tents for attendees to borrow.

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4.2.5. Handicapped Access to Facilities

As we've stated above, handicapped access to facilities should not be a problem. However, please notify the planning committee via your registration form, so that we are aware and can do our best to accommodate you.

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4.3 What Amenities Are Nearby?

Lincoln State Park offers several historic sites, miles of hiking trails, boat rentals, swimming, fishing (with a license, available at the park office), and a nature center. The Indiana Department of Natural resources has a downloadable map of the park and a brochure about the park, both in PDF format. Lincoln Boyhood National Memorial, operated by the National Park service, is located just outside the park and can be reached via hiking trail from the state park; it preserves the land where Abraham Lincoln grew up, as well as his mother's grave.

Santa Claus, Indiana is just a few miles from Lincoln City. It's easy to get to: just come out of the park, turn right on SR 62, and you'll be there in just a few minutes. Santa Claus plays host to the world famous Holiday World and the largest wooden roller coaster in the world (http://www.HolidayWorld.com). There's also a hotel, a grocery store (Holiday Foods), many statues of Santa Claus and related Yuletide icons, and an unusually large post office (they handle a lot of remailing business).

Dale, Indiana is a little further than Santa Claus, but a larger town. To get to Dale, turn left as you come out of the park, right on US 231, and north six and a half miles into town. Dale has several restaurants, another Holiday Foods, and a couple of motels between the site and the interstate, as well as a library. Intrepid explorers report that Internet access is available from the library (broadband) and the truck stop on the other side of the freeway (dialup, ask for the booth with the power outlet in the back corner).

Jasper, Indiana is 16.5 miles north of Dale on US 231. Jasper is a very large German town, one of many that dot southern Indiana. One of Jasper's favorite hangouts is The SchnitzelBank (http://www.schnitzelbank.com/). If time allows, a trip to the "Schnitz" is a must.

The Oliver Winery is located in Bloomington, Indiana, about 100 miles from the park. In addition to producing a wide range of wines, the winery produces Camelot Mead, which is quite tasty. (There will be plenty of heathen homebrewed mead to sample at Trothmoot, but some might find it worthwhile to pick up some of the local commercial product.) There are complimentary tastings all week and winery tours on weekends.

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4.4 What's the Weather Like?

June in Southern Indiana is generally unpredictable, but if the last few years are any indication, it will be hot. But who knows? We may be burning up or we may have to drag out blankets. Highs average in the mid-80's while lows tend to be in the high 50's. Anticipate cooler weather after nightfall, and dress accordingly. However, be sure to pack your rain gear, just in case. It may rain, usually in the form of an warm afternoon shower or thundershower but probably no more than once over the course of a weekend. Insect repellent, and sunscreen are also recommended.

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4.5 Relations with Our (Corporeal) Neighbors: The Locals

In the past, there have been some issues with other campers, and persons who live in the area. While these are perhaps inevitable when visiting and camping away from home, please keep in mind that the moot will go much more smoothly if none of its attendees go out of their way to cause comment with the locals. Please obey all applicable laws and rules with regards to speed limits, and the like. Keep in mind that "peace strings" are meaningless when facing a weapons violation, so please leave the weapons safely stored away when out and about. If you shop at the local stores, be a good guest. These are typical words of advice, but we're sure you understand what we mean when we say the rules of good guestlyness apply!

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5.0 How Much Does It Cost?

These tables are taken directly from the registration form:

Registering early and taking the food plan option saves you money.

Can't come for the whole thing? The Troth offers Day Rates for both Trothmoot registration and the meal plan; see above.

Again, please remember that the food plan is optional, and you are not required to pay for, or participate in, the food plan. However, all food plan participants are expected to sign up for one shift of meal prep or clean up. Registration at the gate, in full, for the entire festival and the food plan will be $110.

Registration includes accommodations in the cabins, attendance at all associated rituals, workshops, and appropriate meetings, and the feast Saturday night.

All attendees will be expected to sign a liability waiver. This waiver is included with the registration form.

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5.1 Can I Register with a Credit or Debit Card or Online?

Those of you with PayPal Accounts will be able to register for Trothmoot online. We'll have this set up very soon!

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5.2 How Do I Sign Up?

A registration form is available as an Adobe PDF file, and all Troth members will receive one in the mail. Alternate formats can be made available -- please e-mail troth-contact@thetroth.org if you need one.

Once your form is filled out, mail it to:

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6.0 What About Dealers?

There will be a variety of vendors at Trothmoot, so be certain to bring spending money!

All vendors will be asked to donate an item to the Troth raffle, which will be held on Saturday between the Feast and the Grand Sumble.

Due to space constraints, vendors should anticipate having to bring their own set up, displays, tables, etc.

If you are interested in vending please check out our dealer application . If you need more information, please contact Melanie Rowand-White, our Dealer Coordinator, who will be collecting all information. Keep in mind that this is a Heathen event, and therefore items that will sell best are those that Heathens would want to buy!

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7.0 What Should I Pack?

Here's a list we've found useful from previous Trothmoots:

• Sleeping bags or sheets and blankets (the beds have foam rubber mattresses but no linens)
• Pillows
• Bug repellent!
• Sunscreen!
• A sun hat
• Rain gear
• A jacket (the nights are chilly...)
• Sturdy shoes (for the land-taking hike)
• Coat hangers (if you need to hang things)
• Appropriate garb (if you have it) for Grand Sumbel, including cloak
• Drinking horn if you have it (again, for Grand Sumbel)
• Musical instruments, songs, and poetry
• Art and craftwork to display

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8.0 What Have People Said about Past Trothmoots?

Here are some things people have had to say about past Trothmoots:

It was our first Trothmoot, and a wonderful experience. Wonderful people, the type you would want with you either at a feast or a fight, and so much talent--everyone seemed to be a scholar, a musician, an artist, a craftsman, a seer, or all the above. And so many great impressions--the three seeresses with their cloaks, staffs, and wearing half the world's supply of amber--the norns could not have looked more impressive. The Frey blot, which hit all the right buttons for me--I was so choked up I couldn't speak for an hour, and Cat, who had never seen me like that, was alarmed. Ann Sheffield's Odin meditation in the dark, when we were joined suddenly by a tall man in a hat, and all started counting the group, to make sure we hadn't been joined by the Old Man himself. The expression of horror on our friend's face--she was already utterly trashed--when she saw Stefn bring in the gallon-and-a-half horn for the sumbel. Thanks everyone.

-- Jack Hart

Wanda and I had such a wonderful time at Trothmoot this year, again. We were very fortunate that we were able to make it. It makes it nice to place faces with those on the list, and we hope to meet many others.

The symbel was truly moving. The way that we shared a part of our lives with each other true drew us into a tighter community. I have not really noticed this at the ones we have with our friends at home. I think this is because we are already close and share many personal moments together, the bond is already strong and upon reflection, strong but more subtle to notice.

-- Michael and Wanda

I just wanted to say I had a fantastic time at Trothmoot. And I want to apologize for not getting there sooner and staying longer. ... I was especially proud to see three new Godmen, and was very moved by Gus' Weyland blot. Anyhow, I plan to make it next year in California. A year should be enough time to save up for a plane ticket...

-- Swain Wodening

The sense of community that builds during Trothmoot is a constant "welcome home." As a person pointed out to me at Trothmoot 2003: "I am at home with a bunch of friends—most of whom I've never met before."

And I add, in the native dialect of New York: "What? You lookin' at me? I don't THINK you wanna miss dis year's Moot!"

-- Patricia Lafayllve

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9.0 Whom Should I Contact for More Information?

There are two places to email to get more information. First, there is always troth-contact@thetroth.org, a great place for all general Troth questions. However, more specific Trothmoot 2007 questions not already addressed in this FAQ may be better answered by contacting the committee directly at: trothmoot2007@yahoo.com or melnierwn@insightbb.com.

We look forward to seeing you at Trothmoot!

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